After NEEDHAM JORDAN and his brother RICHARD JORDAN’s BRANCH was established, a conflict arose. NEEDHAM’s KIT matched PERFECTLY with a kit submitted to establish WILLIAM JORDAN (Husband of Rebecca Purvis Jordan) of CHATHAM COUNTY. The kit submitted to establish William had sat dormant for years waiting for someone/anyone to submit a close matching kit. My work helped this to occur. Immediately following the match some in this Sampson/Wayne Jordan family wanted to quickly link Needham directly to William. They used the 1820 census as proof Needham must be that son! William clearly had three sons at that time! Part of this was driven by dealing with a broken branch for so long. Oh how I could identify. Solving such a mystery weighs on families. But there were three problems with this hasty conclusion.
First, researchers have to remember that the Ymarker tests’ reach is 26 generations. So even though you find a close connection along the same branch with the reach of the test being 26 generations how do you determine the generation where the common shared ancestor can be found? As discussed in the Needham and Richard Jordan Case it is vital for all 0-1 genetic distance matches to pull their Ymarkers out to 67 or 111 to help narrow the generation range window for where a common shared ancestor will be found. But there is something else to do. Anchor your kit and include the Family Finder test. When it comes to JORDAN work, Family Finder tests are essential. Here is a perfect case study where Ymarker alone won’t give you enough information to properly do your genetic genealogy work. You must ANCHOR the kits which you submit to establish a particular surname/paternal line. And the more Family Finder tests you can submit when there is a conflict the more likely you will have information to solve the conflict! So getting girls whose maiden names was Jordan – sisters, aunts, mothers, great aunts, or grandmothers may have received valuable information from ancestors. Cousins need to work together! And I don’t mean first cousins. I mean 3th, 4th, 5th, 6st, and 7th cousins!
Your Ymarker test only will establish the surname or paternal tree (there are often more than one surname involved when it comes to early colonial trees! The Jordans are no different. You need the autosomal information to actually help you isolate actual generations.
There was an existing hurdle which precluded a quick connection by Sampson Co folks to William of Chatham. There was a pre-existing published genealogy for a man named Issac Caswell Jordan. This man also called Chatham County home. For decades researchers claimed he was the son of William Jordan and Rebecca Purvis. Remember DNA work doesn’t replace classic work, it clarifies and confirms it! So I found myself needing to know what JG tree Isaac Caswell Jordan was? And how would he relate to William of Chatham if at all? Or for that matter how would he relate to the Sampson County brothers? There were no paper records which could provide these answers. DNA was the only way to proceed.
So I tracked down a descendant of ISAAC CASWELL JORDAN and asked him if he would please establish his JORDAN BRANCH. He and his father each did kits to anchor their branch by submitting Y MARKER tests and FAMILY FINDER TESTs. The father was the eldest living Jordan in their family and the son wished to do a kit too. It is not necessary for both father and son to do kits. The best candidate is the eldest living male Jordan! When father and son each do kits it does provide maternal phasing of the son’s Family Finder test and this helps make quick work of chromosome centimorgan segments.
* Note if you recall Needham/Richard Sampson Co kit and William of Chatham kit each had Ymarker information extended to 67 markers to help both branches better understand how close of a relationship they have. Any kit submitted which a researcher suspects of connecting to either the Sampson family or the Chatham family needs to realize their Ymarker test will need to be out to 67 markers so it can communicate with the other two and help to isolate how close a relationship exists and at what generation a shared ancestor can be found. Because the JG3 tree has several identified branches, many researchers are choosing to start with the 67 markers. You can always start with 37 and upgrade but the best value may be to order the Family Finder test during the year and in December upgrade and add the Y67 test! Remember if cousins are working together the costs of the tests can be shared.
So we have one segment of a branch which belonged to Needham and Richard of Sampson (I use both of them because it is clear these two were brothers and Richard while older had no children) and one segment of the same branch which belonged to William of Chatham. 37 markers will provide enough marker information to establish what surnames are included in a man’s tree. Because of surname switches, most trees identify more than one surname. By working the 37 match level (3 panels of markers) a researcher can isolate the surname tree and even possibly confirm their branch to a surname. In the case of Needham/Richard of Sampson and William of Chatham there was a perfect match at 37 markers. This meant they were on the same branch of the JG3 Jordan tree. There was still a question as to how close on the same branch they were. This is where upgrading one’s kit to extend their Ymarker information to 67 or 111 markers becomes critical. So many published genealogies are wrong when it comes to JORDAN work and many, many families are stymied and have a broken branch. By extending or upgrading a kit to 67 markers or even 111 a researcher can better understand how they relate to close (0 or 1 marker different) matches. This step requires each kit with a close (0 or 1 marker different) relationship at 37 to upgrade their kit so their kit communicates the best information and all can learn how the segments on the branch allign. * keep in mind if there are missing branches the relationships may shift a bit as more folks establish their branch. The lab will provide a range of generations, not a specific generation.
The question arose “Was Isaac Caswell Jordan the son of William Jordan of Chatham?” Paper research was deficient. The question must be addressed using DNA. The only way to determine the true relationship between William Jordan of Chatham and Isaac Caswell Jordan began with establishing Isaac Caswell Jordan’s branch. Was he even a JG3 Jordan? Was he on the same branch William and Needham/Richard shared? * Note, this case explains why it is important to establish EACH and EVERY JORDAN branch who called NC home during or before the 1700s! By submitting DNA you confirm or clarify the pre-existing published genealogies.
On paper it looked very much as though Isaac could be William’s son. For the longest time genealogists used proximity and the way children were named and in some cases because of record loss conclusions were based on these bare facts alone. Isaac Caswell Jordan died during the Civil War. I know how such a loss can interfere with family history being passed down. Isaac Caswell Jordan’s descendants pushed off to TENNESSEE and they named their children the same as one of William of Chatham’s sons! * Note, names were used across various JG JORDAN TREES. Do not fall into the trap many classic genealogists found themselves. Even today Jordans are using the same names – MATTHEW, WILLIAM, JAMES, THOMAS to name their children!
For decades these now TN JORDANS thought they knew their pedigree before Isaac Caswell. Much of what they gathered was based on faulty North Carolina genealogy work.
WILLIAM and REBECCA PURVIS JORDAN wed in Chatham in 1813. Where William was born is a mystery. At the time of their marriage both were represented in their bond to be “of CHATHAM”. Doesn’t mean he was born in Chatham! One of William’s descendants was Margaret Jordan Ellis, a past president of THE JAMESTOWN SOCIETY. I spoke with her after Needham’s kit populated and she was thrilled. She had been working for longer than I have been on this planet to try and determine where her WILLIAM was born and who were his parents? He didn’t drop from the sky. She had been stymied for over 60 years. The NEEDHAM and RICHARD JORDAN of SAMPSON kit match provided some clues and definitely illustrated some of the migration pattern for a particular JG3 branch but there was still much work to do to isolate both this SAMPSON branch and this CHATHAM branch of JG3 Jordans. And like all types of research success is measured by the cooperation achieved. William may be a descendant of a JORDAN family who lived along the Cape Fear. He could be the son of a JORDAN family of any number of NC counties. Some believe the JG3 originated in VA and while I have not found any kits which confirm this it is still a working hypothesis. As more Jordan branches are established it will be easier to isolate this WILLIAM. William was a very common name and it was a surname too. So WILLIAMS families who called NC home during or before the 1700s now is important to JORDAN genetic genealogy work! Especially WILLIAMS who lived or near CHATHAM or SAMPSON counties where these two kits go. Establishing their early NC branches may also help us with the JG3 Jordan tree and this branch in particular.
The third reason one can’t jump and quickly connect Needham/Richard to William as sons is it would be misinterpreting census records. You can’t pick and choose what you want to see in a record. DNA gives us a more clear understanding of paper records. The specifics will follow below.
Best research practice protocols dictate one must resolve conflicts. The DNA kits submitted by father and son established Isaac’s branch AND clearly showed ISAAC CASWELL JORDAN was not the son of WILLIAM and REBECCA, the kits confirmed ISAAC CASWELL JORDAN was not a JG3 JORDAN at all but was a NEWLY DISCOVERED UNIQUE JG 25 FAMILY. I can hear some saying WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe that kit originally submitted to establish WILLIAM was wrong. I did not draw a conclusion based on only two kits. NO CONCLUSION SHOULD EVER BEEN DRAWN based on two DNA kits! It takes three or more to even begin to have enough data.
The first kit to establish William Jordan’s line was submitted by a man who tracked through William’s son Maloy M Jordan’s branch. He submitted his kit years before I began my work. His kit was the one which matched Needham and Richard Jordan of Sampson. They both were clearly returning as JORDANS and part of the JG3 Jordan Tree. However, after Issac Caswell Jordan’s line did a kit I had to determine if there was a misdirection at WILLIAM himself. So I asked a descendant of William’s other son Horace Harrison Jordan to do a kit. This particular line is still here in Chatham County NC. They still own land that tracks back to William. When this third DNA kit populated it too showed as JG3 JORDAN and also connected directly with both the Sampson brothers kit and Maloy M Jordan’s kit. So by using Ymarker DNA I was able to confirm the first kit submitted had his facts straight and was in fact connected to WILLIAM of CHATHAM.
Isaac Caswell Jordan was not the son the William Jordan and was in fact connected to a man with the surname GOODMAN at some generation. How long had he carried the JORDAN SURNAME? WHY? Some folks who have a surname switch forget about the reach of the Ytest. It is 26 generations. I now need kits for GOODMANs! There is an Ambrose GOODMAN of Hillsborough, Chatham County whose branch may help us find some more information. I could go on and on with possible GOODMAN families from Richmond VA down to Wilmington NC whose branch may shred some light on this turn of events. However we can’t assume Isaac Caswell Jordan’s dad was a GOODMAN. We need help from both within Isaac Caswell Jordan’s descendents families AND folks who carry the GOODMAN and SILER surnames. Why SILER? Because that was the surname of Isaac Caswell Jordan’s wife! SILER CITY was named for the SILERS. * note, this is why it is so important to work with cousins who connect through maternal lines at a critical generational node. This node is in CHATHAM CO NC and the early 1800s. So the kits needs are for SILERS of CHATHAM CO. The Silers had many sons and Isaac’s wife was Sophia Siler. There is confusion as to how Sophia directly connects to Pikard Dietrich Siler. Descendants hold the answers in their DNA. And the JG25 JORDANS as well as the JG3 JORDANS need their help and cooperation. If anyone is doing for the SILERS what I am trying to do with the JORDANS, please contact me using my CONTACT form. We need to talk.
If anyone from Isaac Caswell Jordan’s line (or any SILER or WILLIAMS from this region) did a DNA kit through Ancestry.com it is my hope you will transfer the raw data to FTDNA. And as you reach out to matches on Ancestry- whether you looking at Ancestry DNA matches or you are using Ancestry to pedigree build you need to work to get cousins who track back to Chatham county to get their raw data to FTDNA too.
Suddenly Isaac Caswell’s marriage to a daughter of the German man Siler City was named grew more important. Perhaps the naming of the children had more to do with their maternal side than their paternal side? Little is known of William Jordan of Chatham. Perhaps he too or his wife Rebecca have a connection to these SILERs? It will take DNA to help us answer these questions. For ISAAC CASWELL JORDAN’s line, there is an immediate need to work with the descendants of Plikard Dietrich Siler.
The Isaac Caswell Jordan Ymarker test provided a collection of matches of men who share a completely different surname GOODMAN. (sadly no CASWELL! Remember that too is a surname and a place marker by the time Isaac Caswell Jordan was born) Because my work is focused on establishing JORDANS who called NC home during the 1700s I cannot devote all of my time to a particular line. Instead, I want to share where we are and hopefully the researchers within that particular line will pick up the baton and move the work along. We all work in concert with each other.
This research track began a few years ago. I am hoping by publishing the particulars of this particular conflict and research track for resolution someone who is working the GOODMAN or the SILER or the CASWELL families who called NC or VA home during the 1700s can and will help. (This researcher is currently wondering if the CRABTREE family who connect to the SILER family) may also hold some helpful information).
Isaac Caswell Jordan’s descendants now know their published pedigree accepted as fact for decades claiming William Jordan of Chatham CO was Isaac Caswell Jordan’s dad was flawed. How do we know this? Three kits were submitted to establish and confirm William’s JG3 branch and one of those kits was submitted by a man who still lives on land originally belonging to William in Chatham County, NC. There were two kits (the two kits submitted by the father/son count as one kit) submitted by different sons of Isaac Caswell Jordan, specifically Andrew P Jordan (1848-1939) and William Henry Jordan (1851-1936). Both kits match perfectly and both are returning as GOODMAN not JORDAN. So why is this a JG JORDAN tree? Because there are generations of many Jordans who descend from Isaac Caswell who are JORDANS! And we do not know where or when the surname switch occurred! One of the wonderful bonuses of my work is helping advance ALL EARLY JORDAN work who called NC home during or before the 1700s. What occurred here was I asked a man to help me resolve the conflict. He did over and beyond and submitted kits for himself and his dad! When their kits populated we all learned there had been a JORDAN who came through brother Andy’s line who had been trapped in the UNGROUPED section of the JORDAN SURNAME PROJECT for years! He had turned in a kit and it had not matched any of the existing established JG Jordan trees. His kit obviously showed a GOODMAN connection but his solitary kit left the door open to all sorts of scenarios for when this surname switch occurred. The submission by father and son helped to clarify they all were JORDANS as of Isaac Caswell Jordan and allowed an unique JG JORDAN tree to be made via the JORDAN SURNAME PROJECT. (this is one of the reasons I ask folks to join the JORDAN SURNAME PROJECT!)
Now the work continues with the CHATHAM county JORDANS (and possibly elsewhere) to determine the parents of Isaac Caswell Jordan.
*NOTE: it is critically important for missing JORDANS who track back to NC or VA or SC or FL or GA or TN, which was part of early NC initially, to establish their branches. We need all branches of Jordans to take this step to confirm their work as we have for Margaret Jordan Ellis’ published work and to clarify misinformation that still exists on Ancestry.com and can lead some folks astray if they only do autosomal DNA kits through Ancestry! By submitting kits via FTDNA Isaac Caswell Jordan’s descendants know more about their Jordans/Goodmans and they have clear research focus points to work now.